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Pricing Strategist Walks Into a Wine Show-Blows Everything Up Pt. 1-4
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Pricing Strategist Walks Into a Wine Show-Blows Everything Up Pt. 1-4

Claire Wang spent 20 years pricing your phone plan, your insurance, and your foreign exchange rates. Now she's applying that same psychology to wine — and what she reveals will change the way you look at every price tag on every bottle you've ever picked

What does a pricing strategist know about wine? More than you'd think. Claire Wang joins Forrest Kelly to break down the psychology behind why we pay what we pay — and why our brains are doing a lot more work than we realize every time we reach for a bottle.

Claire unpacks the famous Stanford and Caltech MRI study that proved people's brains literally experience more pleasure when they think they're drinking expensive wine — even when the wine is identical. She introduces the concept of the "magic number of 99" and explains why premium wineries deliberately avoid it, opting for clean price points like $18 or $19 to signal quality rather than bargain.

The conversation takes a sharp turn at Château Pichon Baron in Bordeaux, where managing director Christian Seeley shared his pricing philosophy in a single sentence: "I charge the highest price my regular customers will enthusiastically buy." Claire calls it a perfect summary of everything pricing strategy is built on.

The episode closes with a fast and sharp True or False round on the psychology of pricing — and Claire goes undefeated.

Her book The Price of Influence: How to Move Anyone to a Yes drops in September, 2026.

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